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Q & A: Almost Part II BDSM and Abuse

8 Mar

Thank you all for the wonderful comments on yesterday’s post.  i will be answering them, but i need to have time to savor each one and respond mindfully, which is not going to happen this morning.

In fact, i’m tempted to give you the short answer to the second part of Lil’s question and postpone the rest.  Part II of her question was:

“Do you think that, on some level, women who end up in abusive relationships were really seeking D/s, but were not aware of it and the massive differences between the two?”

 It’s a great question, and i’ve thought about that a lot, wondering if women who are in abusive relationships are really misguided submissives.  The short answer is: Sure, maybe, i think that might be true for some people. 

i don’t know of any research on it, which is unfortunate.  That would be a great dissertation for someone…   

If i look at my own relationships, i can see that possibility.  Certainly, i’m submissive.  And i didn’t know that the lifestyle was an actual option until my mid forties, or later.

And my marriage was abusive, although i would not have said that 20 years ago.  

Intuitively, it makes sense to say i must have been drawn to something that is the same between an abusive marriage and a D/s relationship.  At least i guess maybe it does.

i don’t know, Lil.  i had a good answer to this in my head, but now that i get here, it’s not so clear.

i think that early on there are similarities between Dom’s and men who turn out to be abusive.  And certainly, when my husband and i were dating, there were times that i felt a kinky, submissive rush with him.  For sure, that was part of what attracted me.

But ~ i guess i think there’s a question under your question.  And maybe i’m wrong.  But i wonder if you’re looking for an answer to the “why do people stay in abusive relationships?” question.

One answer to that question might be, “Because they’re really submissives who just don’t know about the lifestyle.”  But ~ i don’t know ~ there’s something that feels “off” about this answer.   

Yeah, and here i am, almost time to get ready for work, and i’m wandering through this question, not even sure where i’m headed.  It is a great question, Lil, because i thought i was clear in my own mind and apparently i’m not quite.

So let me back up.  In order to really respond to this, i need to lay out why i think people stay in abusive relationship ~ which is a perennial question.  In your comment yesterday, Lil, you reflect on that idea, pointing out, {not quite in these words} that abuse is different for children than adults because adults have more resources and more options.

Lots to write about, and i will.  i need to for myself.  But not this morning.

Sorry.

Ok, so, {laughing…} not much to see here today… feel free to move along.  Come back when i’ve got something worthwhile to post.  🙂

More

Last night, i saw my Sir.

My nipples are still tender

from the twisting, pulling, sucking, tugging…

i feel His hands on me yet.

My skin has an electric energy,

a charge that tingles.

His scent lingers, 

i can taste Him still,

my mouth longs to lick and caress,

i want more.

i want His body pressed against me,

His hands smacking my ass,

His mouth on me,

leaving marks

so i remember all day long

that i am His.

Q & A: BDSM and Abuse

7 Mar

Lil asks:  “How do you define the differences between abuse and BDSM, and do you think that, on some level, women who end up in abusive relationships were really seeking D/s, but were not aware of it and the massive differences between the two?”

What a great question, lil!  Thanks for asking my opinion ~ i hope it inspires you to finish your post on it.

i’ve been pondering the differences between BDSM and abuse as long as i’ve known about the lifestyle. There are so many ways to frame it.  Jade took one way in her comment yesterday.  She said:

“i think the line between abuse and TTWD can be summed up not in any activity but in two ways. 1. Intent and 2. How you feel about yourself when you look in the mirror afterwards.”

That makes sense, and i agree.  It the Top’s intentions aren’t honorable, if the Bottom feels diminished in the morning… those things matter.  

Of course, another huge difference is consent.  BDSM is consensual, abuse is coerced, pressured, or forced.  That doesn’t mean “it’s only abuse if you fight back”.  It’s abuse if you’re not consenting.  That’s a whole other topic, right?  And an important piece to remember.

But i’m going to come at the question from a different angle.

WARNINGS:

1.  This post may be a trigger for abuse survivors.  

2.  i do not know the particulars of your dynamic and am not making any judgements on you, your partner, or your situation.  If you’re happy, that’s all that matters.

3.  i will try to vary the gender assignments ~ not all offenders are male, not all victims are female.  If i slip into the pattern of He/she, i apologize.  That is not the reality.  Mostly, i’ll use “they” for the offender, even though that’s bad grammar, and “you” or “we” for victims, which makes it more gender neutral.

Ok, here we go.

When i talk with survivors of abuse, particularly sexual abuse, i have little mini-lectures i do.  i talk softly and slowly, pausing often to just breathe and let them react.  Often, i will tell them something like this:

There are two things about abuse that {i think} make it damaging, that do the most harm.  The first one is that the perpetrator always blames the victim for what he’s done.  Somehow ~

it might be wearing the wrong pajamas, being in the wrong place, saying the wrong thing at the wrong time ~

~ it might be because they’re  too pretty, too sexy, too bad, or even too special.

Somehow, the victim brought it on.  

It doesn’t make any difference what the abuser finds to blame it on, they always mange to make it the victim’s fault.  The abuser is not in control of their own actions, the victim “made them” do it, it was the victims fault.

And on some level, we tend to believe that.  We want to believe that we could have prevented it ~ that if we “had only…” then it wouldn’t have happened.  

The reality is we can’t prevent abuse.  It can happen no matter how careful we are, no matter what we do, no matter what we look like, no matter where we are…  

Abuse happens because we cross paths with an abuser, at a time when we’re vulnerable, for whatever reason.

Ok, so that’s one of the things that does the most harm. That the victim ends up blaming herself or himself.  And abusers are really good at convincing us of that, often without us even realizing it.

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As you’re reading this, stop and absorb a minute.  If you’re feeling upset or triggered, walk away.   Do something that makes you feel good.  You can finish later. 

But if you’re ready, we’ll go on.

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The other thing that happens when you’re being abused, the second thing that causes a lot of the harm, is that when you’re being abused, it’s not safe to feel your feelings.  When we’re being hurt,  we tend to “shut down.”  “Go away in your head.”    Different people call it different things.  

Some people talk about actually feeling like they’re outside their body, watching what’s happening like it’s happening to somebody else.

But most of us, when we’re being abused, being hurt, do some kind of shutting down on feelings.  Of course  – that makes perfect sense.  It’s part of what protects us, helps us survive the experience.  We do the same thing in childbirth, right?  If you have natural childbirth, at some point you just sort of “go away.”  It’s too much, and we shut down.  That’s why we often don’t remember every minute of what happened.

And that’s a good thing.  That’s a way of protecting ourselves.

The problem with that is that after the trauma is over, after we’ve survived, when it would actually be safe to feel those feelings ~ then we don’t want to.

Well, of course we don’t want to.  Why would we want to?  They’re not exactly pleasant, feel-good feelings, right?

But they’re ours.  They belong to us.  

And when they’re connected to abuse, they don’t actually go away.  

They just get tucked away in a corner of our minds.  

And then, at some point, they begin to pop out.  When we least expect it, least want them to, they pop back out.   Flashbacks, nightmares, intrusive thoughts.  There they are.

Kind of like pushing leftovers to the back of the refrigerator.  They don’t just go away.

{Ok, at this point, i have a long lecture on how avoiding those feelings is what leads to Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and why it’s not really a disorder, but a normal reaction to a difficult, painful experience…  and then on to the rules we learn about how the world works when we’ve been abused, and lots more, but clearly i am not going to do all that here}

Skipping back to the BDSM and abuse question ~ do you see where i’m going?   The two things that cause tremendous harm with abuse are reversed in BDSM.

In TTWD, the Dominant or Master takes full responsibility for His or Her own actions.   My Sir spanks me because He wants to, not because i made Him mad, or made Him lose control.  Big contrast.  

Now, there is that tricky element of us wanting what they’re doing, at some level also.  But that’s why we consent, right?  So it’s mutual.   Another big difference.

AND, there is no doubt that we feel our feelings.  For many of us, it’s important to feel them at the time, to stay connected with what’s going on.

For some people, they’re ok with not feeling them at the time, but then quickly claim the feelings afterwards.  We talk about them, blog about them, analyze them, tattoo them on our bodies…  We are all about sharing the feelings.

There are other differences ~ some of which may be immediately obvious.  For example, just being able to talk about what we’re doing and feeling is a tremendous difference.  Abuse is secret.  TTWD are private, but at least here in the blogosphere, they are not secret!

Enough, and maybe more than enough,  for today.   i’ll tackle Part II of the question tomorrow.

A Question from Dragon Lady

6 Mar

“okay, i have a q for you…*evil snikker* (yes, i know it’s spelled incorrectly…on purpose)…

if your M ordered you to give another guy a bj, would you balk? (assuming he set up the parameters beforehand for you to be safe from stds, etc…)”

That’s a great question, Dragon Lady, um ‘Nilla.

You know, i think there are different levels or layers of fantasy.  

Story of O was a huge, huge turn on for me, and i found my sexual energy through fantasies of that kind of sexual slavery for so many years.  But do i really want to be taken to Roissy and used by many anonymous men?  

No.  i really don’t.  So that’s a fantasy that stays in my head, it’s not something that i think i have a secret yearning for.

Do i want to be taken by more than one man at the same time, in a group sex kind of scenario?  Um, i don’t think so, but under the exact right circumstances ~

~ if it were two men i knew well and i was attracted to them both and they both wanted to share me, and i was feeling really submissive, well, hmmm, it could happen.  But it would need to meet all those conditions, and even then, maybe not.

On the other hand, there are plenty of kinky fantasies that i really might want to come true.  Some exhibitionist stuff.  Some punishment themes.  You know, other stuff.

Remember me talking about the first real Dom i knew ~ not First Sir, but Mike Moore?  Mike who i loved so dearly, who used to say, “Now, mind me.  I like a woman who minds.”  

Well, he was Irish, and he loved to tell stories, and i’ve probably told this one before.  But he might start, “You know, my friends used to say to me, they’d say, ‘Mike, what do you mean ‘you like a woman who minds?   I don’t know what you’re talking about, you can’t make women mind you, not nowadays!  They’re independent, they’re not gonna do anything just because you tell ’em to.’  

And,” Mike would continue, “I’d say, ‘Well, yes I can make women mind me.  It’s easy.”  He’d pause and look at me, “You know how to make a woman mind, don’t you?'”  

And i, in my wide-eyed vanilla-ness, would shake my head, “nooooo, how do you do that?” even long after i knew the answer, cause i loved to hear him laugh and say,

“Well, you just make ’em do things they want to do anyway!   That’s the secret.  You just tell ’em to do the things they want to do anyway.”  Then he might add, “You’re not wearing panties are you?  See, good girl, that’s what i like, a woman who does what she’s told, now come over here and let’s see how many orgasms you can have right now.  Hurry up, mind me!” 

And i’d giggle and be a little embarrassed, but you know, who could resist an offer like that???

Now i also noticed that if he mostly told me to do things that i wanted to do, or that brought me pleasure, he could throw in a thing or two that i wasn’t so sure i wanted to do, and i’d be so in the habit of saying yes, that i’d slide right into doing those pretty easily too.  

And i thought it was important that i noticed that.

But, i digress.  Getting back to your question…

For me, being made, coerced, or pushed into doing something sexual is a huge trigger for me.  i know that’s the dynamic for a lot of D/s relationships, that the “s” can’t say no, isn’t allowed to say no to sex.

But that’s what my first marriage was like. Non-consensually.  Well, and my first real sexual relationship, for that matter, which was non-consensual by virtue of age and quickly became sexually and physically abusive.  

So for me personally, not speaking for anyone else, i essentially need to consent to each episode.  It doesn’t have to be formal, it can be implicit, and ~ i’m not explaining this well.  i’m sorry.  It’s not like my Dom needs permission ~ that’s silly ~ but ~ it’s like this ~

i know that if i don’t want to do something sexual, really don’t, and He doesn’t help me move into an accepting submission, if He overrides me, and insists, then i will feel like crap afterwards.  i will feel like i’ve been abused.

On the other hand, for example, i have a love/hate relationship with anal sex.  i want it/don’t want ~ and i have past issues with it ~ and i want it as much as i hate it, so it’s a fair playground for pushing my comfort level.  

But if he “makes me,” i will have emotional and even sensory flashbacks and it won’t be pretty.  Or helpful.  

It damages me.

After i got divorced the first time, it took me about a year of therapy to realize that all those times i’d said to my husband, “Please don’t, please don’t, it’s like you’re raping me, please don’t…”  well, it took me a year of therapy after the divorce to realize that when you feel that way you are being raped.

So, back to your question, Ms ‘Nilla, giving another guy a blow job is not a secret fantasy of mine.  If my Master wanted me to do it, he would have to figure out how to make me want to do it first.  And “because he wants me to” would probably not be reason enough for that particular thing.

If he really “made me” ~ coerced, pushed, pressured ~ when it wasn’t something i wanted, i think it would damage me.  And i believe i have some responsibility to not let myself be damaged, so… you know, that could be a hard limit for me, but more importantly, it would make me wonder why he’d want me to do something that could harm me.

Whew.  Bet you didn’t know you’d get all this… hope you weren’t looking for a simple yes/no answer!

More questions anyone?